Editorial: Goth Culture is it time to bury the past?

When i write reviews one of the common traps I try hard not to get lost in is comparing every new band I review to one of the sacred dark gods of the 80’s and 90’s that the group I am listening to sounds like. It’s a pretty common tactic and lets face it an effective one. It’s easy to associate with what is familiar when it often feels like the world of goth/industrial/darkwave/new wave/ect has pretty much been discovered and artists are searching for more subtle ways to test the boundaries of what is possible and find some new ground, I figured I would take a moment to acknowledge this is a reality for a lot of people.

There is a reason you hear the joke from DJs that the same request for This Corrosion is what sends everyone running to the dance floor and spinning the hottest new single doesn’t seem to do the same. As someone who is rediscovering the glory of astounding new music coming out in the last 3 years, I truly understand. However here is something else I have come to understand. Paying $80-$150 to see the shrunken husk of 62 year old Peter Murphy trot out on stage to sing the hits is nostalgic and fun, especially if you never saw it before. I’ve done it recently and it was enjoyable. However I can tell you it wasn’t close to seeing Actors, BootBlacks , Bellwether Syndicate, and Schedule IV share a stage in Detroit all in their prime and play a mind blowing glorious audio assault for 4 beautiful hours and have the bands give you a hug after the show for a mere $12. Perhaps seeing Bauhaus in 1981 was exactly like that, but I don’t know because I was 4 years old.

So although I occasionally compare a band I review to an old sacred band, I try not to make that my primary tool for expressing to you what I am hearing and what they mean to me. In the following article I will do just that. I’m going to list a pantheon level classic Goth/Industrial/New Wave/Cold Wave band. Then list a few brand new bands I think are somewhat in their vein who you could probably see in near your home town for $15 or less that would put on the type of show people who saw Joy Division or The Dammed in 1978 speak of in awe because they were there. This is not to say the comparisons I make are exact and that these new bands are carbon copies of your recognized classics. However after doing this for a while I feel there is something that links them to my ear, and this is my editorial. I hope this helps you find something new to run out to the dance floor when you hear that is not Blue Monday 😉

Me glowing with musical Bliss after seeing Actors in Detroit

Let’s start with the holiest of hollies. Joy Division. Look I worship Joy Division. The lyrics, the post punk vibe, Peter freaking Hooks signature bass lines. It’s my favorite band, I own every record on vinyl and have seen Peter Hook and the Light 5 times in 5 cities. However, Ian Curtis died when I was 3. You are not seeing Joy Division today. However you can see these incredible bands right now and get their albums.

Antipole – Perfect post punk precision with the dark lost feeling Joy Division could stir with a modern fresh feel and beautiful execution that would make Martin Hannett proud. They have two amazing albums out and a third on the way. To me this is the sound Joy Division was moving towards if they hadn’t become New Order.

I know a slight cheat to also pick Kill Shelter here because Karl from Antipole also played on this song. However the reason why this speaks Joy Division to me is the power of the lyrics on this album. To put together so many artists with different styles and combine them with one powerful voice from Pete Burns with that driving base and simple concepts that sounds so relate-able and enormous.

The Cure – Robert Smith and the lads made it ok for a person to have feelings. To be both sexy, passionate, and be lost in the romanticism of getting in touch with every aspect hurt, loss, love, hate and everything in between. That slushy flanged out guitar and driving bass inspired a new generation of current bands making beautiful in touch new music. Here are a few.

Twin Tribes from Texas were my first review on this page and inspired me to believe in new music again. This album is everything I love about the Cure and such a fresh and original take that finds it’s own place. They are currently on tour and a must see live show.

It’s hard to pick just one element of Creux Lies from California to compare because it has a perfect synthesis of Cure, Echo and the Bunnymen, and New Order. The result is undeniably enjoyable and a live show near the top of my list to see in 2019

I know, if you were to ask Andrew Eldrich of Sisters of Mercy 1) They are not a goth band 2) No one sounds like them except the Rolling Stones. Even so 🙂

Sonsombre just put out a new album and is planning a tour, (Which Amaranth will get to play a show with) that truly captures everything wonderful about old school goth rock with a modern energy and dance beat.

Ian McCulloch and Echo ATB have a sound driven by some of the best vocal range in the genre which open up so many possibilities for style. That’s what makes me think of these great new bands.

Actors are the real deal. The post punk darlings of Canada have a wide range and an electric stage show. Singer Jason Corbett is a show stopping performer that ranges from heart breaking beauty to acid and intensity just like Ian in his prime.

David Gahan has the voice of sex. Depeche Mode have been riding the line between pop and darkness for decades and stand timeless

Crying Vessel are another well ranged collaboration I recently got the pleasure to see live at Cold Transmission festival. Slade Templeton has that same dark smooth drive of Gahan and a little extra razzle dazzle of Bowie sorely missing from the dark music scene.

Ok Confession time, so far the holy bands of dark music have been far to Malecentric. To me a big part of what made me fall in love with this music was the androgynous feel that has always been tied to it. When I was about 13 I fell in love HARD with Annie Lennox and Eurythmics .

I can never get enough of powerful women with beautiful voices and fearless delivery and Black Nail Cabaret is a revolutionary march with feminine mystique

A new wave for Goth/Industrial Music that I got the supreme honor of opening for Switchblade Symphony. These ladies made a lasting mark on this scene to inspire future generations

Tearful Moon from Texas Captures a lot of that raw husky sultry edge that Tina always portrayed so effortlessly. They are currently working on new material but have a few albums to credit which are modern day burners.

Bauhaus – Time to get back to Peter Murphy and company. Probably the true Godfathers of modern goth.

When Peter Murphy wasn’t feeling up to finishing the tour David J called in Curse Mackey to finish. That should really tell you something. His amazing solo album Instant Exorcism was much more Industrial than anything Bauhaus ever did. What is the same is the intelligence and literary depth of his lyrics in a art driven musical experience.

Killing Joke really ran the gambit of sounds from New Wave, Post Punk, and Industrial and succeeded at every one

Palais Ideal like Killing Joke are so hard to categorize because they flip between style and genre like most people change socks. However one thing stays constant and quality and intelligence of concept that always puts me in mind of the decades spanning relevance of KJ.

Admittedly I just don’t have the chops to break down Industrial Music with the subtle understanding it deserves. So I am going to place Front 242, Skinny Puppy, Front Line Assembly, Ministry together in one category. This is my failing. I was deeply into Industrial in my late teens early 20s. It just didn’t stick with me the way these other bands have. However this new crop of incredible industrial has brought me back to it.
This album from Stoneburner was such a game changer. A culmination of an amazing career from Ego Likeness Steven Archer doing things with percussion and modern electronic sounds that push the boundaries of the early pioneers

Look it is hard to compare Jim Marcus and Go Fight to early Industrial founders because frankly he is one of them. His band Die Warsaw was as much a pioneer as anyone in the genre and someone who really showed me the possibilities of Industrial music beyond angry intensity. This album Tokyo Sexwale is seriously a modern day classic with all the street cred of someone who was there in the beginning

Look I feel like I could keep going on this piece for another 6 hours. Maybe I will add to it later. I hope you hear my main take away. There are current bands, making the music you love, right now. Touring the country in small clubs you can see for reasonable rates in their prime that are on the level of bands like Joy Division and the Cure who you probably didn’t hear about until they didn’t exist or were playing for money in stadiums getting $100 a ticket. Go listen to the bands everyone else is going to find and talk about 5, 10, 20 years ago now. Connect with them like never before with modern social media. Embrace this dark music renaissance.



  1. Nice article.
    I feel and think same.
    New Bands in small clubs is more independent than pay a lot of money to see the Sisters Zombie Show.
    I like Traitrs, Creux Lies, Japan Suicide, Hapax, Actors, Glaare and a lot of other bands that transfer 80ties/90ties feeling in present.

  2. Very pleased to see Steve Archer here. Been following him for some time and he is truly breaking out. Let’s see, I was 23 when Ian hanged himself. (It’ll be 40 years next May). Losing Lennon and then Marley were even more tragic. Two years later I was DJing regularly, spinning shit my best HS friends didn’t want to listen to. But I made them. It’s hard to imagine but I never expected to hear Thompson Twins as background music in a supermarket. Alternative of the late 70s and 80’s was truly transformative. Everything was alternative – reggae, ska, punk, new wave, industrial, it was all considered ALTERNATIVE.

    I always spin new music and don’t take requests because most likely I don’t have the song. Subscribed to CMJ till they folded in 2017. That was another sad loss. There are artists here I am unfamiliar with so thank you very much and I will check them all out. New artists I’ve added to my must-spin list so far in 2019 (in no particular order):

    Evan Deubner
    The MMJ Kidz
    Blood Dance
    the Crustations
    Cardinal & Nun
    Nancy Negative
    Your Ocean

    And if anybody is looking to collaborate with an old school songwriter/lyricist hit me up. I’m a survivor with a story to tell that is looking to get down. Rock on and great article. Peace.

    1. Thank you 🙂 Great history and points here. We did a review of Standalone and I absolutely love that new album. You have a few listed here I don’t know so I have some homework to do 🙂

  3. As for Steven, he is incredible. It scares me some times the level of art he is putting out. In particular this last album for Stoneburner was a true opus and broke new ground in the genre. I have a full review on here. His visual art is amazing as well. He actually did the album cover for my album Spreading the Charred Remains of Hope

  4. FWIW – My song of the year (so far ) for 2019 is: Ausverkauft (Rob Dust Remix) by Torul. My song of the year for 2018 was FYA by Korengal. Great job.

  5. Awesome article, and really great viewpoint with which to look at some of the bands in this renaissance of dark music. One small, but hopefully helpful, piece of feedback. Some of the sections below the pictures and youtube clips of bands are kind of hard to read. The extra small, light gray text on a medium gray background is a challenge. Any chance you can make those sections like the regular main body text on this page? Thanks!

  6. What a stunning article! I’m an older music fan, as in, having been a teenager during the 80s, and love all of that old school music. Also being older, we have a tendency to not be as connected to the scene as we once were, and even though I still look for new music, you have to sift through so much to find diamonds. Your post gave me an excellent launch pad to dive in to these new bands. Bonus, all of the great comments with even more recommendations. Just found IAMTHESHADOW, listening now and I’m blown away by this find. Thanks so much to you and your commenters.

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  8. Nice piece — and it bears commenting that regardless of genre, it’s rather sad to be so stuck that one will listen to only (or mostly) the stuff that they listened to in their youth. It’s also quite boring. One of the keys to maintaining that youthful energy and zeal that most of us had when we were young is to keep exploring, keep turning over those rocks and seeing what’s under them. When everyone is looking in one particular direction, be it at a band, a popular film, a hip new restaurant or whatever, if you take the time and care to look where no one else is looking, that’s often when you find what you need. That’s been my experience, anyway. And to more directly address your topic, I’ll throw in a band of “old, sacred” pedigree that’s still only a few years old, and who are a must-see, and that’s Gitane Demone Quartet. (Members of Christian Death — both versions — Screamers, 45 Grave, etc.) Have seen them a slew of times. They consistently kill it and are super underrated.

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